1 00:00:04,710 --> 00:00:03,270 good morning everybody from the johnson 2 00:00:05,829 --> 00:00:04,720 space center in houston and welcome to 3 00:00:08,230 --> 00:00:05,839 today's briefing we're going to be 4 00:00:10,070 --> 00:00:08,240 taking a look at tomorrow's activities 5 00:00:11,749 --> 00:00:10,080 as the spacex dragon gets ready to be 6 00:00:13,830 --> 00:00:11,759 ungrappled from the international space 7 00:00:15,589 --> 00:00:13,840 station and begin its journey back to 8 00:00:17,189 --> 00:00:15,599 earth joining me here in houston is 9 00:00:19,109 --> 00:00:17,199 holly ridings who is the lead nasa 10 00:00:20,870 --> 00:00:19,119 flight director for this mission we'll 11 00:00:22,390 --> 00:00:20,880 also be going out to john coloras out at 12 00:00:23,590 --> 00:00:22,400 spacex headquarters in hawthorne 13 00:00:25,189 --> 00:00:23,600 california but we'll start off with 14 00:00:27,029 --> 00:00:25,199 holly 15 00:00:30,150 --> 00:00:27,039 all right well good morning everyone 16 00:00:32,870 --> 00:00:30,160 again it's exciting to be here and 17 00:00:34,950 --> 00:00:32,880 discuss departure of the dragon from the 18 00:00:36,549 --> 00:00:34,960 international space station 19 00:00:38,709 --> 00:00:36,559 before we get started on on that 20 00:00:40,950 --> 00:00:38,719 sequence of events i'll tell you a few 21 00:00:41,910 --> 00:00:40,960 things that have happened since last we 22 00:00:43,510 --> 00:00:41,920 spoke 23 00:00:45,270 --> 00:00:43,520 just a few days ago 24 00:00:47,029 --> 00:00:45,280 last saturday 25 00:00:49,510 --> 00:00:47,039 after the successful capture on friday 26 00:00:51,750 --> 00:00:49,520 we did open the hatches 27 00:00:53,189 --> 00:00:51,760 and go into the dragon and of course the 28 00:00:56,630 --> 00:00:53,199 crew reported 29 00:00:58,709 --> 00:00:56,640 that it really was an exciting time and 30 00:01:00,709 --> 00:00:58,719 looked great inside the dragon gave the 31 00:01:03,189 --> 00:01:00,719 crew a little bit of time off and then 32 00:01:06,789 --> 00:01:03,199 monday earlier this week we got right to 33 00:01:08,710 --> 00:01:06,799 work performing the cargo operations for 34 00:01:09,670 --> 00:01:08,720 this dragon demonstration 35 00:01:11,910 --> 00:01:09,680 mission 36 00:01:14,149 --> 00:01:11,920 the dragon did carry 37 00:01:16,149 --> 00:01:14,159 some cargo up to the station station to 38 00:01:18,789 --> 00:01:16,159 demonstrate that capability and then we 39 00:01:21,350 --> 00:01:18,799 will be returning cargo as well 40 00:01:23,350 --> 00:01:21,360 the crew worked out a plan amongst them 41 00:01:24,390 --> 00:01:23,360 themselves very efficiently and managed 42 00:01:26,469 --> 00:01:24,400 to do 43 00:01:27,830 --> 00:01:26,479 almost all the cargo operations in a in 44 00:01:30,069 --> 00:01:27,840 a single day 45 00:01:31,910 --> 00:01:30,079 took them quite a few crew hours but 46 00:01:33,749 --> 00:01:31,920 just one calendar day to get that done 47 00:01:35,749 --> 00:01:33,759 so we were very excited 48 00:01:37,190 --> 00:01:35,759 that they were able to do that when 49 00:01:40,710 --> 00:01:37,200 we're only staying attached to the 50 00:01:43,109 --> 00:01:40,720 station for this short seven day mission 51 00:01:45,590 --> 00:01:43,119 the next day on tuesday we did have a 52 00:01:47,270 --> 00:01:45,600 little bit of cargo ops to finish up and 53 00:01:48,469 --> 00:01:47,280 then today 54 00:01:51,190 --> 00:01:48,479 currently 55 00:01:53,510 --> 00:01:51,200 on console the team is working through 56 00:01:56,389 --> 00:01:53,520 the hatch closer which happened uh just 57 00:01:59,350 --> 00:01:56,399 a while ago gmt-13 so about 8 am local 58 00:02:01,350 --> 00:01:59,360 time and they're in the process of of 59 00:02:03,670 --> 00:02:01,360 what we call de-outfitting the vestibule 60 00:02:05,749 --> 00:02:03,680 that little space between the dragon 61 00:02:07,590 --> 00:02:05,759 hatch and the node 2 hatch 62 00:02:10,070 --> 00:02:07,600 disconnecting some 63 00:02:11,830 --> 00:02:10,080 cables putting back in the controllers 64 00:02:14,630 --> 00:02:11,840 that operate our common berthing 65 00:02:17,030 --> 00:02:14,640 mechanism in preparation for the unbirth 66 00:02:19,030 --> 00:02:17,040 and the departure tomorrow so those 67 00:02:20,949 --> 00:02:19,040 activities will take up 68 00:02:23,510 --> 00:02:20,959 kind of a remainder of the the crew day 69 00:02:25,350 --> 00:02:23,520 today the crew is going to bed a little 70 00:02:27,110 --> 00:02:25,360 bit early today because tomorrow morning 71 00:02:29,670 --> 00:02:27,120 we're going to wake him up two hours 72 00:02:32,790 --> 00:02:29,680 earlier than the nominal time so that's 73 00:02:36,070 --> 00:02:32,800 gmt 0-400 74 00:02:39,430 --> 00:02:36,080 in terms of the day itself big wise 75 00:02:41,350 --> 00:02:39,440 tomorrow we are kind of optimizing our 76 00:02:42,949 --> 00:02:41,360 release and departure from the space 77 00:02:45,990 --> 00:02:42,959 station 78 00:02:48,070 --> 00:02:46,000 for the dragon spacex team 79 00:02:50,550 --> 00:02:48,080 to give them the best opportunity for 80 00:02:52,309 --> 00:02:50,560 this test flight for this demonstration 81 00:02:54,229 --> 00:02:52,319 for the dragon to come home successfully 82 00:02:56,869 --> 00:02:54,239 and and john will talk in a few minutes 83 00:02:57,830 --> 00:02:56,879 about some of the the items that they've 84 00:03:02,630 --> 00:02:57,840 uh 85 00:03:04,949 --> 00:03:02,640 of their re-entry sequence 86 00:03:06,790 --> 00:03:04,959 so going back to the departure tomorrow 87 00:03:09,990 --> 00:03:06,800 the crew is waking up at 88 00:03:11,910 --> 00:03:10,000 0-400 gmt they'll get right to work 89 00:03:13,509 --> 00:03:11,920 after just a few minutes 90 00:03:15,589 --> 00:03:13,519 finishing up the 91 00:03:18,070 --> 00:03:15,599 again the de-outfitting of that 92 00:03:20,470 --> 00:03:18,080 vestibule area so cleaning up the very 93 00:03:22,869 --> 00:03:20,480 last power jumper that we're leaving 94 00:03:25,110 --> 00:03:22,879 connected overnight tonight in order for 95 00:03:26,630 --> 00:03:25,120 the dragon to remain on station power so 96 00:03:29,190 --> 00:03:26,640 to finish that up they go ahead and 97 00:03:30,869 --> 00:03:29,200 close the node 2 hatch then they've got 98 00:03:33,750 --> 00:03:30,879 a significant amount of time a couple of 99 00:03:35,910 --> 00:03:33,760 hours to depress that vestibule that 100 00:03:37,350 --> 00:03:35,920 space between the dragon hatch and the 101 00:03:39,030 --> 00:03:37,360 node 2 hatch 102 00:03:42,309 --> 00:03:39,040 when that's completed then they'll step 103 00:03:44,710 --> 00:03:42,319 into their cbm operations 104 00:03:46,630 --> 00:03:44,720 we did take the robotic arm back to 105 00:03:48,710 --> 00:03:46,640 position where it's already grappled to 106 00:03:51,830 --> 00:03:48,720 the dragon one other activity that 107 00:03:54,470 --> 00:03:51,840 happened since dragon was attached last 108 00:03:56,630 --> 00:03:54,480 week we did do an external survey of the 109 00:03:57,509 --> 00:03:56,640 dragon of the the trunk space the solar 110 00:04:00,070 --> 00:03:57,519 rays 111 00:04:02,550 --> 00:04:00,080 the outside of that dragon to gather a 112 00:04:04,869 --> 00:04:02,560 bunch of data for this demonstration and 113 00:04:06,630 --> 00:04:04,879 this test flight for future flights so 114 00:04:09,350 --> 00:04:06,640 we took the robotic arm after that 115 00:04:11,750 --> 00:04:09,360 activity and back uh grappled to the 116 00:04:13,589 --> 00:04:11,760 dragon where it is today so 117 00:04:15,589 --> 00:04:13,599 after the cbm activities the crew will 118 00:04:17,349 --> 00:04:15,599 be able to step right back in 119 00:04:19,830 --> 00:04:17,359 to the robotic arm 120 00:04:22,870 --> 00:04:19,840 activities a series of maneuvers you do 121 00:04:26,230 --> 00:04:22,880 the unberth from the space station 122 00:04:29,670 --> 00:04:26,240 cbm and then you move the arm out to a 123 00:04:31,030 --> 00:04:29,680 release position the release itself is 124 00:04:33,110 --> 00:04:31,040 targeted for 125 00:04:34,950 --> 00:04:33,120 0.935 126 00:04:36,469 --> 00:04:34,960 gmt 127 00:04:37,830 --> 00:04:36,479 certainly with this test flight this 128 00:04:40,070 --> 00:04:37,840 being the first time we've run through 129 00:04:42,550 --> 00:04:40,080 that series of activities that i that i 130 00:04:44,070 --> 00:04:42,560 just described there's some variability 131 00:04:47,030 --> 00:04:44,080 in that time but that is our timeline 132 00:04:49,430 --> 00:04:47,040 time that we're targeting the 0935 133 00:04:52,070 --> 00:04:49,440 the departure sequence is fairly quick 134 00:04:55,189 --> 00:04:52,080 it's a three burn series two small burns 135 00:04:58,310 --> 00:04:55,199 and then one big burn so turn it on the 136 00:05:00,950 --> 00:04:58,320 dragon engines and the dragon will head 137 00:05:03,270 --> 00:05:00,960 away from the space station outside of 138 00:05:05,830 --> 00:05:03,280 of the integrated uh space and that will 139 00:05:08,629 --> 00:05:05,840 be the end of our integrated activity 140 00:05:11,270 --> 00:05:08,639 with the spacex dragon team and that 141 00:05:14,390 --> 00:05:11,280 process is 10 or 11 minutes 142 00:05:16,469 --> 00:05:14,400 after the release time so again very 143 00:05:17,590 --> 00:05:16,479 quick very different than rendezvous day 144 00:05:20,390 --> 00:05:17,600 when we spend a lot of time in 145 00:05:21,670 --> 00:05:20,400 integrated space the dragon will head on 146 00:05:23,749 --> 00:05:21,680 out and then 147 00:05:24,629 --> 00:05:23,759 be on its own in terms of the dragon 148 00:05:26,390 --> 00:05:24,639 team 149 00:05:29,350 --> 00:05:26,400 controlling and managing the rest of the 150 00:05:31,110 --> 00:05:29,360 activities for the day as they work 151 00:05:33,749 --> 00:05:31,120 through their re-entry and splash down 152 00:05:35,430 --> 00:05:33,759 sequence and so with that i'll hand off 153 00:05:37,590 --> 00:05:35,440 to john and he'll walk you through all 154 00:05:41,110 --> 00:05:37,600 of those activities that his team will 155 00:05:46,790 --> 00:05:43,749 hey thanks holly so holly uh perfectly 156 00:05:48,550 --> 00:05:46,800 described our departure sequence once we 157 00:05:49,590 --> 00:05:48,560 leave integrated space from the space 158 00:05:51,990 --> 00:05:49,600 station 159 00:05:54,150 --> 00:05:52,000 approach ellipsoid we'll be conducting 160 00:05:57,189 --> 00:05:54,160 numerous operations uh which include 161 00:05:59,590 --> 00:05:57,199 closing our gnc bay door that door is 162 00:06:01,990 --> 00:05:59,600 where the grapple fixture is located 163 00:06:03,749 --> 00:06:02,000 where station grabbed us with the arm so 164 00:06:06,950 --> 00:06:03,759 be closing that up performing some 165 00:06:08,790 --> 00:06:06,960 checkouts and then performing our large 166 00:06:11,590 --> 00:06:08,800 re-entry burn which will take about 10 167 00:06:13,590 --> 00:06:11,600 minutes and with that uh 168 00:06:15,029 --> 00:06:13,600 about five and a half hours after 169 00:06:16,790 --> 00:06:15,039 release from the arm we should be in the 170 00:06:19,189 --> 00:06:16,800 water our recovery forces will be 171 00:06:21,510 --> 00:06:19,199 standing by they departed late monday 172 00:06:24,150 --> 00:06:21,520 night and they're about 16 hours out 173 00:06:26,230 --> 00:06:24,160 from the splashdown zone and they'll be 174 00:06:28,150 --> 00:06:26,240 ready to recover 175 00:06:29,749 --> 00:06:28,160 now it's important to note again we have 176 00:06:31,830 --> 00:06:29,759 a lot ahead of us 177 00:06:34,550 --> 00:06:31,840 on the spacex side once we leave 178 00:06:36,629 --> 00:06:34,560 integrated space with nasa we still have 179 00:06:38,150 --> 00:06:36,639 the entire reentry to perform we're 180 00:06:40,469 --> 00:06:38,160 really looking forward to it we've done 181 00:06:41,670 --> 00:06:40,479 it once on c1 but it's still a very 182 00:06:44,550 --> 00:06:41,680 challenging 183 00:06:45,909 --> 00:06:44,560 phase of flight and uh 184 00:06:48,390 --> 00:06:45,919 only a few countries have done this 185 00:06:50,870 --> 00:06:48,400 before so we're not taking this lightly 186 00:06:54,309 --> 00:06:50,880 at all but the crew looks good and we 187 00:06:57,270 --> 00:06:56,070 okay we'll take some questions now here 188 00:06:58,950 --> 00:06:57,280 in houston first then we'll go to the 189 00:07:05,189 --> 00:06:58,960 phone lines we'll start over here with 190 00:07:10,710 --> 00:07:07,510 thank you mark caro for aviation week i 191 00:07:12,870 --> 00:07:10,720 think my first question is for holly 192 00:07:14,870 --> 00:07:12,880 uh holly writings 193 00:07:16,950 --> 00:07:14,880 when does the sort of the nasa 194 00:07:18,550 --> 00:07:16,960 operational phase 195 00:07:21,270 --> 00:07:18,560 of this flight 196 00:07:23,110 --> 00:07:21,280 end is it with the ungrappled 197 00:07:24,469 --> 00:07:23,120 or is it a 198 00:07:26,309 --> 00:07:24,479 point down the line i just kind of 199 00:07:29,909 --> 00:07:26,319 wanted to see where you consider the 200 00:07:32,230 --> 00:07:29,919 demarcation okay it's actually as john 201 00:07:34,629 --> 00:07:32,240 mentioned when the dragon exits what's 202 00:07:38,150 --> 00:07:34,639 called the approach ellipsoid uh so 203 00:07:39,909 --> 00:07:38,160 that's the um uh one kilometer by two 204 00:07:42,550 --> 00:07:39,919 kilometer dune radius if you did 205 00:07:44,869 --> 00:07:42,560 diameter it's two by four uh kilometer 206 00:07:46,070 --> 00:07:44,879 space and so to go through the burn 207 00:07:48,629 --> 00:07:46,080 sequence one more time you do the 208 00:07:51,110 --> 00:07:48,639 release uh there's two uh small 209 00:07:53,029 --> 00:07:51,120 departure burns dragon performs that 210 00:07:54,710 --> 00:07:53,039 you kind of go down the r bar you sort 211 00:07:56,070 --> 00:07:54,720 of directly towards earth and then a 212 00:07:57,430 --> 00:07:56,080 larger burn 213 00:08:00,230 --> 00:07:57,440 that takes you 214 00:08:01,350 --> 00:08:00,240 out of the approach ellipsoid so roughly 215 00:08:02,950 --> 00:08:01,360 10 minutes 216 00:08:06,070 --> 00:08:02,960 if i look at the timeline i think it's 217 00:08:08,309 --> 00:08:06,080 exactly 11 after release will be outside 218 00:08:10,550 --> 00:08:08,319 of the approach ellipsoid and that is 219 00:08:12,390 --> 00:08:10,560 the end of the integrated operation 220 00:08:14,150 --> 00:08:12,400 point portion so per our flight rolls 221 00:08:16,150 --> 00:08:14,160 outside of the approach ellipsoid on a 222 00:08:18,469 --> 00:08:16,160 safe trajectory away from the space 223 00:08:20,070 --> 00:08:18,479 station we do continue to support the 224 00:08:20,790 --> 00:08:20,080 dragon team 225 00:08:22,710 --> 00:08:20,800 with 226 00:08:24,150 --> 00:08:22,720 tdrs scheduling and 227 00:08:27,510 --> 00:08:24,160 communication 228 00:08:29,990 --> 00:08:27,520 for them but in terms of the authority 229 00:08:32,790 --> 00:08:30,000 or outside of the integrated space and 230 00:08:35,269 --> 00:08:32,800 then we turn into a supporting role for 231 00:08:37,269 --> 00:08:35,279 their mission at that point 232 00:08:38,870 --> 00:08:37,279 okay and if i can ask a follow-up i have 233 00:08:40,709 --> 00:08:38,880 one for uh 234 00:08:44,230 --> 00:08:40,719 john could you 235 00:08:47,750 --> 00:08:44,240 as as accurately as you can 236 00:08:48,790 --> 00:08:47,760 describe where the recovery zone is 237 00:08:51,030 --> 00:08:48,800 and 238 00:08:52,790 --> 00:08:51,040 during the re-entry 239 00:08:55,030 --> 00:08:52,800 can you explain 240 00:08:58,070 --> 00:08:55,040 how you'll do your tracking i in other 241 00:08:59,990 --> 00:08:58,080 words do you have more than 242 00:09:01,910 --> 00:09:00,000 ships for the recovery do you have any 243 00:09:04,470 --> 00:09:01,920 aircraft involved 244 00:09:07,110 --> 00:09:04,480 and and once you bring dragon aboard the 245 00:09:08,710 --> 00:09:07,120 recovery ship can you explain 246 00:09:11,030 --> 00:09:08,720 where you'll take it next is it 247 00:09:14,470 --> 00:09:11,040 hawthorne for uh de-stowing and 248 00:09:18,710 --> 00:09:15,829 certainly hopefully i can remember 249 00:09:21,509 --> 00:09:18,720 answering all your questions so first 250 00:09:24,470 --> 00:09:21,519 our splashdown zone is about 490 251 00:09:27,430 --> 00:09:24,480 nautical miles uh southwest of los 252 00:09:30,150 --> 00:09:27,440 angeles more to the west and south uh 253 00:09:31,829 --> 00:09:30,160 the recovery boats it's a fleet of three 254 00:09:33,829 --> 00:09:31,839 vessels i'll be standing by for that 255 00:09:36,550 --> 00:09:33,839 with within supporting fast boats that 256 00:09:39,110 --> 00:09:36,560 go out and save the spacecraft 257 00:09:40,949 --> 00:09:39,120 we expect to 258 00:09:42,870 --> 00:09:40,959 return the capsule 259 00:09:45,430 --> 00:09:42,880 it will take about maybe two to three 260 00:09:47,910 --> 00:09:45,440 days to return and on return to port 261 00:09:48,870 --> 00:09:47,920 will then go directly to our facility in 262 00:09:51,829 --> 00:09:48,880 texas 263 00:09:54,070 --> 00:09:51,839 for cargo unloading and for 264 00:09:55,670 --> 00:09:54,080 further spacecraft inspection 265 00:09:57,910 --> 00:09:55,680 and i'm sorry you had a question about 266 00:09:59,990 --> 00:09:57,920 tracking i believe as well so we have a 267 00:10:02,470 --> 00:10:00,000 number of ways that we track position on 268 00:10:04,550 --> 00:10:02,480 dragon after the re-entry burn 269 00:10:06,470 --> 00:10:04,560 first we have four uh inertial 270 00:10:08,870 --> 00:10:06,480 measurement units that are providing 271 00:10:11,030 --> 00:10:08,880 updated positions those are updated by 272 00:10:13,509 --> 00:10:11,040 uh our gps units that are on board the 273 00:10:14,630 --> 00:10:13,519 spacecraft these all communicate with us 274 00:10:15,590 --> 00:10:14,640 via 275 00:10:17,910 --> 00:10:15,600 tdrs 276 00:10:20,230 --> 00:10:17,920 connection as uh holly had mentioned 277 00:10:22,230 --> 00:10:20,240 using the nasa assets there 278 00:10:24,150 --> 00:10:22,240 we also have a number of ground stations 279 00:10:26,150 --> 00:10:24,160 that will pick up dragon during its 280 00:10:28,310 --> 00:10:26,160 descent and then a 281 00:10:30,069 --> 00:10:28,320 telemetry dish is also a part of the 282 00:10:30,949 --> 00:10:30,079 recovery vessel so we have kind of a 283 00:10:32,630 --> 00:10:30,959 mini 284 00:10:35,030 --> 00:10:32,640 telemetry vessel out there i'll be 285 00:10:37,030 --> 00:10:35,040 tracking dragon all the way to the water 286 00:10:39,910 --> 00:10:37,040 furthermore we have a separate recovery 287 00:10:41,750 --> 00:10:39,920 system that it consists of another gps 288 00:10:43,670 --> 00:10:41,760 system that uses a different 289 00:10:45,430 --> 00:10:43,680 communication system to relay to us 290 00:10:47,350 --> 00:10:45,440 globally where dragon would be in the 291 00:10:48,790 --> 00:10:47,360 water 292 00:10:53,990 --> 00:10:48,800 your final question 293 00:10:59,509 --> 00:10:56,870 uh yes sir i wondered 294 00:11:01,430 --> 00:10:59,519 you you mentioned that the 295 00:11:03,190 --> 00:11:01,440 that the recovery ships will come to a 296 00:11:05,670 --> 00:11:03,200 port and i didn't know that was 297 00:11:07,750 --> 00:11:05,680 hawthorne and then you fly it to 298 00:11:08,870 --> 00:11:07,760 mcgregor and texas if i understood you 299 00:11:11,030 --> 00:11:08,880 correctly i just wonder if you could 300 00:11:13,990 --> 00:11:11,040 sort of clarify 301 00:11:16,630 --> 00:11:14,000 the full voyage of spacex or where you 302 00:11:19,590 --> 00:11:16,640 take it i'm not i'm not clear 303 00:11:21,110 --> 00:11:19,600 sure so we uh recover dragon onto our 304 00:11:23,509 --> 00:11:21,120 recovery vessel 305 00:11:25,350 --> 00:11:23,519 uh and then from there we bring it into 306 00:11:27,509 --> 00:11:25,360 the port of los angeles and then 307 00:11:29,829 --> 00:11:27,519 immediately uh transport transported to 308 00:11:31,590 --> 00:11:29,839 our mcgregor texas facility 309 00:11:32,949 --> 00:11:31,600 you'd also ask about aircraft we 310 00:11:34,949 --> 00:11:32,959 currently have a number of aircraft 311 00:11:37,750 --> 00:11:34,959 supporting we have our own 312 00:11:40,949 --> 00:11:37,760 jet they'll be standing by but we do use 313 00:11:42,710 --> 00:11:40,959 the nasa p3 assets one is an infrared 314 00:11:44,870 --> 00:11:42,720 imaging aircraft and the other is a 315 00:11:46,470 --> 00:11:44,880 telemetry aircraft these are same 316 00:11:47,829 --> 00:11:46,480 aircraft that were used for shuttle 317 00:11:49,509 --> 00:11:47,839 return flights 318 00:11:52,230 --> 00:11:49,519 very capable assets and they'll be 319 00:11:53,430 --> 00:11:52,240 standing by and capturing dragon during 320 00:11:55,430 --> 00:11:53,440 the re-entry 321 00:11:57,910 --> 00:11:55,440 all the way to splashdown just like what 322 00:12:00,069 --> 00:11:57,920 they did to support us on the dragon c1 323 00:12:05,269 --> 00:12:00,079 mission 324 00:12:10,150 --> 00:12:07,829 hi robert perlman with collectspace.com 325 00:12:13,190 --> 00:12:10,160 with a question for john maybe also for 326 00:12:15,750 --> 00:12:13,200 josh um you mentioned having aerial 327 00:12:16,949 --> 00:12:15,760 imagery assets what might we see during 328 00:12:20,710 --> 00:12:16,959 the actual 329 00:12:24,629 --> 00:12:20,720 uh re-entry and um and splashdown 330 00:12:27,030 --> 00:12:24,639 i'll let john take that one first 331 00:12:29,350 --> 00:12:27,040 so uh the assets we have on the aircraft 332 00:12:30,949 --> 00:12:29,360 it's uh primarily infrared so it's 333 00:12:34,150 --> 00:12:30,959 trying to capture dragon during the 334 00:12:36,629 --> 00:12:34,160 re-entry process uh so you'll see uh 335 00:12:38,470 --> 00:12:36,639 varus heating profile on dragon itself 336 00:12:40,310 --> 00:12:38,480 at a rather long distance 337 00:12:42,310 --> 00:12:40,320 but still enough for us to get some good 338 00:12:44,470 --> 00:12:42,320 data from and then on the recovery 339 00:12:47,030 --> 00:12:44,480 vessels themselves we also have high 340 00:12:50,069 --> 00:12:47,040 definition video and still camera 341 00:12:52,310 --> 00:12:50,079 photography as well as a telemetry asset 342 00:12:54,949 --> 00:12:52,320 and that will be capturing uh dragon on 343 00:12:58,870 --> 00:12:54,959 board video but that video is primarily 344 00:13:03,430 --> 00:13:01,750 okay and a second question for john 345 00:13:05,910 --> 00:13:03,440 with regards to 346 00:13:09,030 --> 00:13:05,920 the nasa cargo on board what's your 347 00:13:11,590 --> 00:13:09,040 timeline for once the capsule's back in 348 00:13:14,150 --> 00:13:11,600 mcgregor for delivering the payload back 349 00:13:18,310 --> 00:13:14,160 to nasa and how does that compare to the 350 00:13:19,590 --> 00:13:18,320 timeline for an operational crs flight 351 00:13:21,829 --> 00:13:19,600 certainly so 352 00:13:24,870 --> 00:13:21,839 we have two types of cargo that we have 353 00:13:26,949 --> 00:13:24,880 requirements uh to deliver back to nasa 354 00:13:29,509 --> 00:13:26,959 and we're going to be demonstrating the 355 00:13:32,310 --> 00:13:29,519 early access cargo return which is a 356 00:13:34,629 --> 00:13:32,320 pretty special return 357 00:13:36,069 --> 00:13:34,639 return profile that wasn't normally 358 00:13:37,990 --> 00:13:36,079 meant for this mission but we'd like to 359 00:13:40,550 --> 00:13:38,000 demonstrate it and that's to get high 360 00:13:42,870 --> 00:13:40,560 value experiments back to nasa within 48 361 00:13:45,189 --> 00:13:42,880 hours of splashdown so that's a stretch 362 00:13:47,829 --> 00:13:45,199 goal for ours but we are going to 363 00:13:50,310 --> 00:13:47,839 exercise that and turn that over to nasa 364 00:13:52,710 --> 00:13:50,320 48 within 48 hours after splashdown in 365 00:13:55,430 --> 00:13:52,720 los angeles the second requirement is to 366 00:13:57,590 --> 00:13:55,440 return standard cargo to nasa within 14 367 00:13:58,389 --> 00:13:57,600 days and that we should definitely meet 368 00:14:00,470 --> 00:13:58,399 uh 369 00:14:02,710 --> 00:14:00,480 with the turnover occurring in mcgregor 370 00:14:04,310 --> 00:14:02,720 texas which works out well for nasa 371 00:14:05,910 --> 00:14:04,320 because most of the processing for the 372 00:14:09,189 --> 00:14:05,920 payloads will be occurring out of 373 00:14:11,269 --> 00:14:09,199 johnson space flight center in houston 374 00:14:13,590 --> 00:14:11,279 okay over here 375 00:14:15,509 --> 00:14:13,600 yes i'm fort atkinson with kriv here in 376 00:14:17,430 --> 00:14:15,519 houston i wonder just for the layman so 377 00:14:19,670 --> 00:14:17,440 they can understand better and me too 378 00:14:21,030 --> 00:14:19,680 for that matter what have you learned so 379 00:14:22,870 --> 00:14:21,040 far 380 00:14:25,189 --> 00:14:22,880 perhaps that you didn't expect to learn 381 00:14:27,269 --> 00:14:25,199 quite this early in the mission 382 00:14:30,069 --> 00:14:27,279 has something occurred that you you said 383 00:14:33,750 --> 00:14:30,079 to yourself wow that was easier or more 384 00:14:38,949 --> 00:14:37,269 let's see um in terms of of learning uh 385 00:14:41,430 --> 00:14:38,959 you know you're constantly learning we 386 00:14:43,189 --> 00:14:41,440 spent in john's case you know 387 00:14:45,350 --> 00:14:43,199 five or so years in my case almost three 388 00:14:46,310 --> 00:14:45,360 years designing all of these activities 389 00:14:48,069 --> 00:14:46,320 and so 390 00:14:49,990 --> 00:14:48,079 to see them run 391 00:14:51,910 --> 00:14:50,000 you know you're always learning things 392 00:14:53,509 --> 00:14:51,920 i'm trying to think of a good kind of 393 00:14:55,269 --> 00:14:53,519 high level example 394 00:14:57,110 --> 00:14:55,279 certainly the rendezvous and capture you 395 00:14:59,430 --> 00:14:57,120 know john and i worked through that 396 00:15:01,590 --> 00:14:59,440 together and so to see 397 00:15:03,910 --> 00:15:01,600 how dragon was going to behave as it's 398 00:15:06,230 --> 00:15:03,920 as it's moving towards the space station 399 00:15:07,910 --> 00:15:06,240 with all of the sensors that communicate 400 00:15:09,110 --> 00:15:07,920 with the space station and determine you 401 00:15:11,030 --> 00:15:09,120 know the location the dragon and the 402 00:15:12,389 --> 00:15:11,040 location of the space station so we all 403 00:15:14,069 --> 00:15:12,399 learned a lot about how those are going 404 00:15:16,069 --> 00:15:14,079 to behave and i know that the post 405 00:15:19,189 --> 00:15:16,079 flight the spacex team is going to look 406 00:15:20,550 --> 00:15:19,199 at those in a lot of a lot of detail 407 00:15:22,949 --> 00:15:20,560 we learned a lot about how the dragon's 408 00:15:25,110 --> 00:15:22,959 going to behave when the crew 409 00:15:27,670 --> 00:15:25,120 captures it right so you have all of 410 00:15:29,749 --> 00:15:27,680 this analysis ahead of time that says 411 00:15:31,670 --> 00:15:29,759 when you turn off of the engines and it 412 00:15:33,670 --> 00:15:31,680 and it sits in that spot where the arm 413 00:15:35,910 --> 00:15:33,680 reaches out to grab it 414 00:15:37,110 --> 00:15:35,920 how much is it going to move around 415 00:15:39,110 --> 00:15:37,120 and so 416 00:15:41,030 --> 00:15:39,120 that analysis 417 00:15:43,430 --> 00:15:41,040 told us that it was going to move around 418 00:15:46,230 --> 00:15:43,440 a little bit um and actually i think i'd 419 00:15:48,790 --> 00:15:46,240 have to look at the telemetry but to my 420 00:15:51,030 --> 00:15:48,800 eye it looked like it did very well and 421 00:15:53,189 --> 00:15:51,040 met the expectations and was very good 422 00:15:54,870 --> 00:15:53,199 for the crew to go and 423 00:15:56,389 --> 00:15:54,880 grab it so that was one thing that at 424 00:15:57,189 --> 00:15:56,399 least i was concerned about ahead of 425 00:15:58,470 --> 00:15:57,199 time 426 00:16:01,030 --> 00:15:58,480 because you want to make sure it's going 427 00:16:02,470 --> 00:16:01,040 to move in a little and 428 00:16:03,509 --> 00:16:02,480 sit in one place so that the crew can 429 00:16:05,189 --> 00:16:03,519 grab it so 430 00:16:07,030 --> 00:16:05,199 to me i you know i learned that so we 431 00:16:08,470 --> 00:16:07,040 learned how the vehicle behaved 432 00:16:11,269 --> 00:16:08,480 the other big thing we really learned 433 00:16:13,990 --> 00:16:11,279 how we'll work together as a team and 434 00:16:15,590 --> 00:16:14,000 overall that went very very well there 435 00:16:18,150 --> 00:16:15,600 are differences in the way we do 436 00:16:20,550 --> 00:16:18,160 operations of course differences in the 437 00:16:22,389 --> 00:16:20,560 structure of our control center but 438 00:16:24,710 --> 00:16:22,399 mostly we learned that 439 00:16:27,430 --> 00:16:24,720 to bring in a new a new partner the 440 00:16:29,910 --> 00:16:27,440 spacex team we were able to communicate 441 00:16:32,629 --> 00:16:29,920 and accomplish something uh very 442 00:16:34,629 --> 00:16:32,639 complicated um in space with two dynamic 443 00:16:35,910 --> 00:16:34,639 vehicles so those are probably my two 444 00:16:39,590 --> 00:16:35,920 biggest ones i don't know john yet you 445 00:16:43,509 --> 00:16:41,749 just to reiterate again uh how well the 446 00:16:46,629 --> 00:16:43,519 teams work together and the value of 447 00:16:48,629 --> 00:16:46,639 training are really allowed us to ensure 448 00:16:51,670 --> 00:16:48,639 success for the approach and the 449 00:16:53,430 --> 00:16:51,680 birthing operation um also just like how 450 00:16:56,310 --> 00:16:53,440 holly mentioned the behavior of the 451 00:16:58,790 --> 00:16:56,320 vehicle was as expected and that was a 452 00:17:00,870 --> 00:16:58,800 big confidence boost again to to uh 453 00:17:03,590 --> 00:17:00,880 reiterate how good our analysis was on 454 00:17:05,189 --> 00:17:03,600 it and uh honestly uh we also learned 455 00:17:07,510 --> 00:17:05,199 that at least i learned i have no 456 00:17:09,590 --> 00:17:07,520 trouble uh sleeping during the day uh 457 00:17:12,390 --> 00:17:09,600 the shifts were great shift schedule 458 00:17:14,710 --> 00:17:12,400 work worked really well and uh the crews 459 00:17:19,350 --> 00:17:14,720 both on the nasa side and the spacex 460 00:17:21,350 --> 00:17:19,360 side uh really were strong 461 00:17:22,789 --> 00:17:21,360 okay let's go to the phone lines uh i 462 00:17:27,429 --> 00:17:22,799 believe we have ken kramer with space 463 00:17:30,870 --> 00:17:29,430 okay let's go to the phone lines uh i 464 00:17:34,150 --> 00:17:30,880 believe we have ken kramer with space 465 00:17:35,430 --> 00:17:34,160 flight magazine hi thank you um 466 00:17:37,590 --> 00:17:35,440 you did a 467 00:17:39,270 --> 00:17:37,600 survey of the 468 00:17:40,549 --> 00:17:39,280 exterior 469 00:17:41,990 --> 00:17:40,559 of dragon i wonder if you could tell us 470 00:17:45,270 --> 00:17:42,000 a little bit about the results of that 471 00:17:50,710 --> 00:17:47,909 okay well we only finished it up just in 472 00:17:52,870 --> 00:17:50,720 the last 24 to 36 hours so the results 473 00:17:54,950 --> 00:17:52,880 are very preliminary but overall very 474 00:17:58,310 --> 00:17:54,960 positive one of the primary goals of the 475 00:18:00,070 --> 00:17:58,320 survey uh was to ensure again that all 476 00:18:02,470 --> 00:18:00,080 of the the models in the analysis 477 00:18:05,270 --> 00:18:02,480 performed on the ground uh really 478 00:18:07,830 --> 00:18:05,280 matched the on-orbit uh 479 00:18:09,750 --> 00:18:07,840 configuration of the dragon 480 00:18:11,830 --> 00:18:09,760 downstream flights we're going to do 481 00:18:13,750 --> 00:18:11,840 robotics where we go out 482 00:18:15,270 --> 00:18:13,760 into the trunk so we take our robotic 483 00:18:17,350 --> 00:18:15,280 arm and we put 484 00:18:18,950 --> 00:18:17,360 dexter so the 485 00:18:20,630 --> 00:18:18,960 spdm 486 00:18:23,190 --> 00:18:20,640 on the end of the arm and can reach 487 00:18:25,750 --> 00:18:23,200 around in the trunk and and grab 488 00:18:27,110 --> 00:18:25,760 different payloads that spacex brings to 489 00:18:28,470 --> 00:18:27,120 the station 490 00:18:29,990 --> 00:18:28,480 that activity 491 00:18:31,430 --> 00:18:30,000 is done what we call kind of in the 492 00:18:33,830 --> 00:18:31,440 blind where you're reaching around on 493 00:18:36,470 --> 00:18:33,840 the back back side the crew doesn't have 494 00:18:38,549 --> 00:18:36,480 a good physical view out of the cupola 495 00:18:40,630 --> 00:18:38,559 windows we use cameras and so it's 496 00:18:42,789 --> 00:18:40,640 really important that all of the models 497 00:18:44,390 --> 00:18:42,799 are accurate in terms of all of the 498 00:18:46,789 --> 00:18:44,400 clearances 499 00:18:48,549 --> 00:18:46,799 to put the arm into the trunk pull the 500 00:18:50,390 --> 00:18:48,559 payload out of the trunk 501 00:18:52,070 --> 00:18:50,400 put payloads back into the trunk so that 502 00:18:54,230 --> 00:18:52,080 was really the biggest goal the results 503 00:18:56,150 --> 00:18:54,240 were very positive they need to take all 504 00:18:57,430 --> 00:18:56,160 that data and go match it in detail to 505 00:18:59,909 --> 00:18:57,440 all of the 506 00:19:02,310 --> 00:18:59,919 the computerized models the other goal 507 00:19:04,789 --> 00:19:02,320 was really to just get a general 508 00:19:06,150 --> 00:19:04,799 understanding of of how well the dragon 509 00:19:07,990 --> 00:19:06,160 had performed 510 00:19:10,470 --> 00:19:08,000 take a look at the solar arrays look to 511 00:19:12,549 --> 00:19:10,480 make sure on the trip to space station 512 00:19:13,669 --> 00:19:12,559 there was no damage that might cause a 513 00:19:15,590 --> 00:19:13,679 problem when 514 00:19:18,070 --> 00:19:15,600 re-entering re-entry happens here 515 00:19:19,909 --> 00:19:18,080 shortly and again all of that was very 516 00:19:22,070 --> 00:19:19,919 positive there wasn't anything 517 00:19:23,350 --> 00:19:22,080 specifically identified that could 518 00:19:25,029 --> 00:19:23,360 cause a problem although i know 519 00:19:27,750 --> 00:19:25,039 everybody's still pouring through that 520 00:19:29,750 --> 00:19:27,760 data in in great detail but the initial 521 00:19:31,350 --> 00:19:29,760 thought is that the dragon really looked 522 00:19:35,350 --> 00:19:31,360 great 523 00:19:37,830 --> 00:19:35,360 for john could you describe the size of 524 00:19:40,390 --> 00:19:37,840 your spacex team mission control team 525 00:19:42,390 --> 00:19:40,400 please and i guess you work 24 hours a 526 00:19:45,029 --> 00:19:42,400 day 527 00:19:47,669 --> 00:19:45,039 uh that's correct we have uh four total 528 00:19:50,150 --> 00:19:47,679 shifts uh usually it's three working 529 00:19:51,990 --> 00:19:50,160 eight hour shifts uh each shift 530 00:19:53,830 --> 00:19:52,000 depending on what phase of flight can 531 00:19:57,270 --> 00:19:53,840 flex anywhere from four people on 532 00:19:59,750 --> 00:19:57,280 console up to the 24 seats that we have 533 00:20:01,430 --> 00:19:59,760 there now of those 24 534 00:20:03,669 --> 00:20:01,440 some of those are 535 00:20:06,230 --> 00:20:03,679 roles like safety and mission assurance 536 00:20:08,870 --> 00:20:06,240 and quality control the main operators 537 00:20:11,270 --> 00:20:08,880 probably take up about 15 to at a 538 00:20:13,350 --> 00:20:11,280 maximum of 17 operators and those 539 00:20:15,909 --> 00:20:13,360 include some very specialized roles for 540 00:20:17,430 --> 00:20:15,919 this one test flight we want to be 541 00:20:19,830 --> 00:20:17,440 making sure we had the experts in the 542 00:20:22,870 --> 00:20:19,840 room in case we had any any items we 543 00:20:25,350 --> 00:20:22,880 want to look at and uh for future 544 00:20:27,110 --> 00:20:25,360 follow-on missions crs missions the team 545 00:20:30,470 --> 00:20:27,120 would generally go from 546 00:20:32,950 --> 00:20:30,480 four operators during uh low times such 547 00:20:34,710 --> 00:20:32,960 as far field rendezvous or even birth 548 00:20:36,630 --> 00:20:34,720 operations getting down to two crew 549 00:20:38,789 --> 00:20:36,640 members uh and then all the way up 550 00:20:40,710 --> 00:20:38,799 during rendezvous ops uh between eight 551 00:20:42,950 --> 00:20:40,720 and twelve 552 00:20:45,669 --> 00:20:42,960 all right and um i just wondered too if 553 00:20:47,190 --> 00:20:45,679 you had a chance i asked this earlier uh 554 00:20:50,710 --> 00:20:47,200 to take a picture with all six crew 555 00:20:52,710 --> 00:20:50,720 members together in the dragon thanks 556 00:20:54,390 --> 00:20:52,720 oh 557 00:20:55,750 --> 00:20:54,400 well let's see so i'm pretty sure 558 00:20:58,149 --> 00:20:55,760 there's a picture with three crew 559 00:20:59,909 --> 00:20:58,159 members in there i haven't seen one yet 560 00:21:01,990 --> 00:20:59,919 with all six we'll check and see if 561 00:21:05,270 --> 00:21:02,000 there is one you know the the dragon is 562 00:21:07,190 --> 00:21:05,280 uh with the cargo in there not really uh 563 00:21:08,950 --> 00:21:07,200 enough space for for six of them to be 564 00:21:10,630 --> 00:21:08,960 in there comfortably that doesn't mean 565 00:21:12,310 --> 00:21:10,640 they haven't given it a try but i 566 00:21:14,830 --> 00:21:12,320 haven't seen a picture yet so at least 567 00:21:16,710 --> 00:21:14,840 so far the only one i i have seen is 568 00:21:18,470 --> 00:21:16,720 three thank you 569 00:21:23,830 --> 00:21:18,480 okay thanks again let's go to uh roger 570 00:21:25,430 --> 00:21:24,630 thank you 571 00:21:27,750 --> 00:21:25,440 uh 572 00:21:29,350 --> 00:21:27,760 good morning to you um 573 00:21:30,710 --> 00:21:29,360 first of all a question for holly and 574 00:21:31,510 --> 00:21:30,720 then i'd like to follow up with one for 575 00:21:34,310 --> 00:21:31,520 john 576 00:21:37,510 --> 00:21:34,320 the when you had a look at the outside 577 00:21:39,350 --> 00:21:37,520 of the dragon did the survey you had to 578 00:21:41,110 --> 00:21:39,360 look inside the trunk i presume that you 579 00:21:43,510 --> 00:21:41,120 didn't come across any anomalies that 580 00:21:47,350 --> 00:21:43,520 would cause problems recovering 581 00:21:51,029 --> 00:21:48,870 so certainly from our perspective there 582 00:21:54,789 --> 00:21:51,039 were not any anomalies and and just to 583 00:21:57,750 --> 00:21:54,799 clarify for this mission nasa did not 584 00:22:00,310 --> 00:21:57,760 put external cargo in the trunk that's 585 00:22:02,149 --> 00:22:00,320 planned for a follow-on mission 586 00:22:03,909 --> 00:22:02,159 several flights downstream from now but 587 00:22:05,270 --> 00:22:03,919 this was really all the preparation work 588 00:22:10,470 --> 00:22:05,280 to make that 589 00:22:15,909 --> 00:22:13,190 right thank you and uh a follow-up 590 00:22:19,350 --> 00:22:15,919 question for john the recovery vessel uh 591 00:22:21,750 --> 00:22:19,360 is this a spacex vessel uh what size is 592 00:22:23,029 --> 00:22:21,760 it and what sort of weather constraints 593 00:22:24,950 --> 00:22:23,039 do you have 594 00:22:26,789 --> 00:22:24,960 for recovering 595 00:22:29,909 --> 00:22:26,799 a dragon 596 00:22:34,870 --> 00:22:32,630 certainly so uh spacex contracts with a 597 00:22:36,549 --> 00:22:34,880 commercial provider for the recovery 598 00:22:38,789 --> 00:22:36,559 vessels and that allows us to have a lot 599 00:22:40,630 --> 00:22:38,799 of flexibility in case we need to call 600 00:22:42,870 --> 00:22:40,640 up a different vessel because of 601 00:22:45,270 --> 00:22:42,880 scheduling concerns 602 00:22:47,909 --> 00:22:45,280 the operators that we use normally 603 00:22:48,950 --> 00:22:47,919 operate a vessel in about the 140 foot 604 00:22:50,950 --> 00:22:48,960 range 605 00:22:52,310 --> 00:22:50,960 and then supporting vessels are slightly 606 00:22:53,510 --> 00:22:52,320 smaller than that 607 00:22:56,549 --> 00:22:53,520 and 608 00:22:58,870 --> 00:22:56,559 the vessels are meant for oceanic 609 00:23:00,310 --> 00:22:58,880 voyages and so forth so they uh they 610 00:23:02,870 --> 00:23:00,320 have very high 611 00:23:05,350 --> 00:23:02,880 uh sea state constraints and our 612 00:23:08,070 --> 00:23:05,360 recovery constraints are about to put in 613 00:23:10,870 --> 00:23:08,080 terms of past programs slightly higher 614 00:23:13,110 --> 00:23:10,880 than the apollo sea state constraints 615 00:23:16,070 --> 00:23:13,120 and right now weather is looking great 616 00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:16,080 through forecast to be great through the 617 00:23:24,149 --> 00:23:18,240 recovery time plus some margin for the 618 00:23:28,870 --> 00:23:26,390 okay i think that's it from roger uh 619 00:23:30,950 --> 00:23:28,880 let's go to clara moscow with space.com 620 00:23:32,390 --> 00:23:30,960 thanks very much yes huh i'm wondering 621 00:23:33,750 --> 00:23:32,400 if you can tell me 622 00:23:35,669 --> 00:23:33,760 if there's any chance at all that the 623 00:23:38,870 --> 00:23:35,679 space station crew will be able to see 624 00:23:40,630 --> 00:23:38,880 re-entry uh from from orbit and also uh 625 00:23:43,110 --> 00:23:40,640 if dragon is going to be flying over any 626 00:23:44,870 --> 00:23:43,120 parts of the land in in pre-dawn or 627 00:23:47,110 --> 00:23:44,880 darkness where people on the ground 628 00:23:48,789 --> 00:23:47,120 could see it 629 00:23:49,830 --> 00:23:48,799 okay well i'll take the first part i 630 00:23:51,990 --> 00:23:49,840 actually just talked to the space 631 00:23:54,149 --> 00:23:52,000 station crew this morning we were doing 632 00:23:56,390 --> 00:23:54,159 our last robotics training session and 633 00:23:57,510 --> 00:23:56,400 after that we had a little uh debrief 634 00:23:59,510 --> 00:23:57,520 and one of the things we talked about 635 00:24:02,230 --> 00:23:59,520 was potentially trying to see dragons so 636 00:24:03,430 --> 00:24:02,240 the release time itself right now is in 637 00:24:05,669 --> 00:24:03,440 the dark 638 00:24:08,630 --> 00:24:05,679 however what they can really see is is a 639 00:24:10,710 --> 00:24:08,640 plasma trail and so 640 00:24:12,630 --> 00:24:10,720 if you plot out the time of the plasma 641 00:24:14,070 --> 00:24:12,640 trail it's in the daylight which will 642 00:24:15,269 --> 00:24:14,080 make it pretty hard for them to see 643 00:24:17,269 --> 00:24:15,279 although i will tell you in the control 644 00:24:18,630 --> 00:24:17,279 center right now they're sending up the 645 00:24:19,990 --> 00:24:18,640 information to the crew so they know 646 00:24:22,310 --> 00:24:20,000 where to look just in the off chance 647 00:24:24,230 --> 00:24:22,320 they can see it although we think it's 648 00:24:27,909 --> 00:24:24,240 unfortunately pretty unlikely just 649 00:24:34,870 --> 00:24:30,549 okay thanks 650 00:24:39,110 --> 00:24:36,950 hi um thanks very much i have a couple 651 00:24:41,430 --> 00:24:39,120 questions first a quick follow-up to 652 00:24:43,029 --> 00:24:41,440 john on one of the previous questions is 653 00:24:47,190 --> 00:24:43,039 what's the name of the company that's 654 00:24:52,230 --> 00:24:49,990 ah certainly it's uh american marine out 655 00:24:55,590 --> 00:24:52,240 of los angeles 656 00:24:57,669 --> 00:24:55,600 thanks and um for holly um 657 00:25:00,950 --> 00:24:57,679 how important is it uh do you think for 658 00:25:04,549 --> 00:25:00,960 nasa to get a big return load since it's 659 00:25:07,750 --> 00:25:04,559 been nearly a year since uh the station 660 00:25:09,830 --> 00:25:07,760 programs had this capability 661 00:25:11,590 --> 00:25:09,840 well in terms of return cargo because 662 00:25:13,269 --> 00:25:11,600 this is the test flight 663 00:25:16,070 --> 00:25:13,279 specifically 664 00:25:17,110 --> 00:25:16,080 the program made sure that there's not 665 00:25:18,789 --> 00:25:17,120 anything 666 00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:18,799 coming home that 667 00:25:22,789 --> 00:25:20,320 we couldn't afford to not get back 668 00:25:24,630 --> 00:25:22,799 certainly that is not the plan uh john's 669 00:25:26,549 --> 00:25:24,640 team is going to have a great re-entry 670 00:25:27,510 --> 00:25:26,559 and splashdown but we didn't put any 671 00:25:28,549 --> 00:25:27,520 critical 672 00:25:30,310 --> 00:25:28,559 cargo 673 00:25:31,590 --> 00:25:30,320 on the return manifest you know that 674 00:25:33,669 --> 00:25:31,600 being said i know it's a really 675 00:25:34,950 --> 00:25:33,679 important capability 676 00:25:37,669 --> 00:25:34,960 to prove 677 00:25:39,909 --> 00:25:37,679 for nasa and for the space station 678 00:25:41,909 --> 00:25:39,919 program as as we go forward 679 00:25:45,830 --> 00:25:41,919 since this vehicle has the unique 680 00:25:49,909 --> 00:25:47,830 thanks and the last question i had is um 681 00:25:52,070 --> 00:25:49,919 i assume the surprise is over now can 682 00:25:54,789 --> 00:25:52,080 either of you 683 00:25:57,190 --> 00:25:54,799 tell us what was a board dragon for the 684 00:26:00,630 --> 00:25:57,200 crew just kind of the care packages 685 00:26:03,909 --> 00:26:02,230 let's see so i i talked to them this 686 00:26:05,510 --> 00:26:03,919 morning but i actually didn't ask them 687 00:26:09,029 --> 00:26:05,520 that question so i don't know john d do 688 00:26:12,390 --> 00:26:10,310 actually i was going to defer to you 689 00:26:15,029 --> 00:26:12,400 holly on that one so i don't have that 690 00:26:17,350 --> 00:26:15,039 information either yeah so so generally 691 00:26:19,029 --> 00:26:17,360 you know we they we keep it private and 692 00:26:20,950 --> 00:26:19,039 and we don't really uh we don't really 693 00:26:22,470 --> 00:26:20,960 delve into their their care packages 694 00:26:25,590 --> 00:26:22,480 that's kind of what makes them special 695 00:26:28,230 --> 00:26:25,600 so i i didn't actually ask them and and 696 00:26:29,750 --> 00:26:28,240 don't know the answer for you 697 00:26:31,750 --> 00:26:29,760 oh thanks uh 698 00:26:33,669 --> 00:26:31,760 gwen chodwell had said uh before launch 699 00:26:36,070 --> 00:26:33,679 that they had asked for apples that they 700 00:26:36,870 --> 00:26:36,080 decided not to include them because of 701 00:26:38,149 --> 00:26:36,880 uh 702 00:26:39,909 --> 00:26:38,159 you know that they didn't want him to 703 00:26:41,590 --> 00:26:39,919 rot in between so just you know was 704 00:26:44,230 --> 00:26:41,600 curious if there was anything like that 705 00:26:45,669 --> 00:26:44,240 but that's fine thank you 706 00:26:47,750 --> 00:26:45,679 okay thanks irene let's go to marcia 707 00:26:50,070 --> 00:26:47,760 down with cecilia press 708 00:26:52,789 --> 00:26:50,080 yes hi this is uh marcia dunn with a 709 00:26:54,950 --> 00:26:52,799 couple of questions for john is this 710 00:26:59,830 --> 00:26:54,960 spacecraft in particular 711 00:27:04,230 --> 00:27:00,789 okay 712 00:27:06,230 --> 00:27:04,240 nasa has contracted all new dragons for 713 00:27:08,950 --> 00:27:06,240 both the cots commercial orbital 714 00:27:12,070 --> 00:27:08,960 transportation services and the crew 715 00:27:14,230 --> 00:27:12,080 resupply or crs missions so this vessel 716 00:27:16,789 --> 00:27:14,240 and then the 12 follow-on spacecraft 717 00:27:19,029 --> 00:27:16,799 will all be new builds we do have the 718 00:27:21,750 --> 00:27:19,039 capability to refurbish and re-fly 719 00:27:23,830 --> 00:27:21,760 dragons both to other destinations so if 720 00:27:26,310 --> 00:27:23,840 there is a commercial uh desire either 721 00:27:27,750 --> 00:27:26,320 to go to a different space station or 722 00:27:30,230 --> 00:27:27,760 for uh 723 00:27:32,149 --> 00:27:30,240 eventual crew carrying a capability we 724 00:27:34,389 --> 00:27:32,159 could look to refurbish these capsules 725 00:27:36,870 --> 00:27:34,399 and also we have a vehicle called dragon 726 00:27:38,549 --> 00:27:36,880 lab which is a long-term free flyer 727 00:27:40,470 --> 00:27:38,559 where we can fly experiments up to two 728 00:27:42,310 --> 00:27:40,480 years on orbit that do not go to the 729 00:27:44,230 --> 00:27:42,320 international space station and we may 730 00:27:46,630 --> 00:27:44,240 refurbish these capsules to fulfill that 731 00:27:50,470 --> 00:27:48,470 a couple more questions then what will 732 00:27:54,870 --> 00:27:50,480 happen to this dragon in particular will 733 00:28:00,630 --> 00:27:57,750 use it for parts 734 00:28:03,110 --> 00:28:00,640 uh i don't have that information but i 735 00:28:05,430 --> 00:28:03,120 uh it will definitely be on display for 736 00:28:07,830 --> 00:28:05,440 its history making a history making 737 00:28:09,830 --> 00:28:07,840 aspect of this mission 738 00:28:11,190 --> 00:28:09,840 my last question for you is how would 739 00:28:13,269 --> 00:28:11,200 you measure 740 00:28:15,350 --> 00:28:13,279 this mission 741 00:28:16,630 --> 00:28:15,360 if you don't get the dragon back the way 742 00:28:18,389 --> 00:28:16,640 you hope 743 00:28:20,470 --> 00:28:18,399 how will you how would you assess the 744 00:28:21,430 --> 00:28:20,480 mission then up to this day if 745 00:28:24,710 --> 00:28:21,440 everything 746 00:28:26,549 --> 00:28:24,720 goes well tomorrow and if it does not 747 00:28:29,430 --> 00:28:26,559 so first of all it was a major success 748 00:28:32,310 --> 00:28:29,440 for us uh the ability to first combine 749 00:28:35,029 --> 00:28:32,320 the c2 and c3 missions and 750 00:28:37,909 --> 00:28:35,039 the trust and hard work that nasa helped 751 00:28:39,909 --> 00:28:37,919 spacex with were really important and 752 00:28:41,830 --> 00:28:39,919 the ability to get to space station on 753 00:28:44,149 --> 00:28:41,840 our first time to 754 00:28:46,710 --> 00:28:44,159 not only rendezvous but then to birth 755 00:28:49,269 --> 00:28:46,720 transfer cargo and depart safely are 756 00:28:51,510 --> 00:28:49,279 major mission objectives and we would 757 00:28:53,669 --> 00:28:51,520 call that mission alone a success 758 00:28:55,909 --> 00:28:53,679 every other spacecraft short of soyuz 759 00:28:58,149 --> 00:28:55,919 fulfills that exact role where it 760 00:29:00,789 --> 00:28:58,159 delivers cargo and then has a 761 00:29:03,269 --> 00:29:00,799 destructive reentry we're hopeful again 762 00:29:04,950 --> 00:29:03,279 it's a major challenge tomorrow that we 763 00:29:07,430 --> 00:29:04,960 feel we're ready for 764 00:29:09,590 --> 00:29:07,440 to perform re-entry but regardless this 765 00:29:12,310 --> 00:29:09,600 c2 plus mission has been a major success 766 00:29:13,510 --> 00:29:12,320 for spacex and for nasa thank you very 767 00:29:15,110 --> 00:29:13,520 much 768 00:29:19,029 --> 00:29:15,120 all right thanks marcia 769 00:29:23,269 --> 00:29:21,110 thank you a couple questions for john 770 00:29:25,669 --> 00:29:23,279 john could you describe the the heating 771 00:29:27,669 --> 00:29:25,679 and g-forces dragon will experience 772 00:29:29,269 --> 00:29:27,679 during reentry and possibly compare that 773 00:29:31,350 --> 00:29:29,279 to any other 774 00:29:33,750 --> 00:29:31,360 vehicles that have re-entered and and 775 00:29:35,750 --> 00:29:33,760 would it is it the same profile as if 776 00:29:38,470 --> 00:29:35,760 you would you you would anticipate if 777 00:29:40,070 --> 00:29:38,480 you were flying people 778 00:29:42,789 --> 00:29:40,080 it is the same profile that we would 779 00:29:44,230 --> 00:29:42,799 anticipate flying uh were we carrying 780 00:29:46,549 --> 00:29:44,240 crew from the international space 781 00:29:49,350 --> 00:29:46,559 station instead of cargo 782 00:29:52,389 --> 00:29:49,360 uh right now because of the inclination 783 00:29:54,710 --> 00:29:52,399 and the iss attitude altitude this 784 00:29:57,750 --> 00:29:54,720 reentry profile will be similar to the 785 00:30:01,029 --> 00:29:57,760 c1 profile that we already flew and we 786 00:30:03,029 --> 00:30:01,039 saw very very strong results on dragon 787 00:30:05,990 --> 00:30:03,039 so we don't anticipate anything uh 788 00:30:08,710 --> 00:30:06,000 atypical from that with standard heating 789 00:30:09,909 --> 00:30:08,720 again similar to most vehicles that have 790 00:30:12,549 --> 00:30:09,919 re-entered 791 00:30:14,470 --> 00:30:12,559 including shuttle with the exception of 792 00:30:17,029 --> 00:30:14,480 some some variations on shuttle's 793 00:30:18,950 --> 00:30:17,039 profile but again very standard for the 794 00:30:21,190 --> 00:30:18,960 inclination and altitude of space 795 00:30:22,470 --> 00:30:21,200 station 796 00:30:24,789 --> 00:30:22,480 so so that would be 797 00:30:28,230 --> 00:30:24,799 perhaps up to about 3000 degrees that 798 00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:29,669 i'd actually have to get you that number 799 00:30:34,950 --> 00:30:31,840 i don't recall offhand but that does 800 00:30:36,950 --> 00:30:34,960 sound uh roughly correct and as well as 801 00:30:39,029 --> 00:30:36,960 gs that are well within the crew limits 802 00:30:40,870 --> 00:30:39,039 again the cargo version dragon is 803 00:30:42,870 --> 00:30:40,880 designed to fulfill as many crew 804 00:30:46,149 --> 00:30:42,880 carrying capabilities as possible and 805 00:30:47,990 --> 00:30:46,159 that includes the g profile 806 00:30:50,630 --> 00:30:48,000 thanks and i was wondering if you could 807 00:30:52,149 --> 00:30:50,640 possibly just explain a little more why 808 00:30:54,070 --> 00:30:52,159 given the different 809 00:30:56,710 --> 00:30:54,080 factors you want you wanted to optimize 810 00:31:00,070 --> 00:30:56,720 why tomorrow is the best 811 00:31:01,909 --> 00:31:00,080 reentry day for you and then finally 812 00:31:05,750 --> 00:31:01,919 when do you expect the next dragon to 813 00:31:08,310 --> 00:31:05,760 ship to the cape and be ready for flight 814 00:31:09,990 --> 00:31:08,320 certainly uh the reason why tomorrow is 815 00:31:11,509 --> 00:31:10,000 optimal for us is it gives us the 816 00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:11,519 maximum amount of daylight in the 817 00:31:16,870 --> 00:31:13,840 recovery zone so that gives the recovery 818 00:31:18,389 --> 00:31:16,880 crew a great opportunity to get dragon 819 00:31:21,110 --> 00:31:18,399 on board the vessel as quickly as 820 00:31:23,110 --> 00:31:21,120 possible also in the morning hours we 821 00:31:25,350 --> 00:31:23,120 expect sea states to be a little bit 822 00:31:27,269 --> 00:31:25,360 lower than they are as the day goes on 823 00:31:28,389 --> 00:31:27,279 so this is really a prime opportunity 824 00:31:31,110 --> 00:31:28,399 for us 825 00:31:34,389 --> 00:31:31,120 and i'm sorry your second question 826 00:31:36,789 --> 00:31:34,399 when will the next dragon to fly do you 827 00:31:38,789 --> 00:31:36,799 understand the falcon 9 is is already at 828 00:31:42,710 --> 00:31:38,799 the cape when will the dragon be shipped 829 00:31:45,110 --> 00:31:42,720 and and be ready to go for crs one 830 00:31:46,549 --> 00:31:45,120 yes that's correct uh falcon 9 is at the 831 00:31:48,950 --> 00:31:46,559 cape and it looks great right now in 832 00:31:51,590 --> 00:31:48,960 fact it's uh it's completing checkouts 833 00:31:54,149 --> 00:31:51,600 at the cape for the next mission uh the 834 00:31:55,990 --> 00:31:54,159 dragon is uh for crs one is here in 835 00:32:02,310 --> 00:31:56,000 hawthorne right now and we expect that 836 00:32:05,990 --> 00:32:04,389 okay thanks james let's go to charles 837 00:32:08,149 --> 00:32:06,000 atkinson 838 00:32:10,310 --> 00:32:08,159 good morning charles action examiner.com 839 00:32:13,990 --> 00:32:10,320 holly what key test does nasa have 840 00:32:15,509 --> 00:32:14,000 planned for dragon following unbirthing 841 00:32:17,830 --> 00:32:15,519 and the question was which what key 842 00:32:20,710 --> 00:32:17,840 tests was that the question 843 00:32:23,430 --> 00:32:20,720 yes does nasa have any new or key tests 844 00:32:25,430 --> 00:32:23,440 that they want to try uh prior to 845 00:32:27,590 --> 00:32:25,440 re-entry for dragon 846 00:32:29,830 --> 00:32:27,600 we actually have already completed all 847 00:32:32,630 --> 00:32:29,840 of what we called our demonstrations or 848 00:32:33,430 --> 00:32:32,640 as you termed them key tests they were 849 00:32:35,669 --> 00:32:33,440 really 850 00:32:37,669 --> 00:32:35,679 playing for the fly ender and then 851 00:32:39,909 --> 00:32:37,679 on rendezvous day 852 00:32:42,470 --> 00:32:39,919 obviously the the cargo transfer was a 853 00:32:44,950 --> 00:32:42,480 key test in terms of fulfilling 854 00:32:45,909 --> 00:32:44,960 dragon's capability to transfer cargo 855 00:32:47,190 --> 00:32:45,919 and so 856 00:32:48,470 --> 00:32:47,200 once we 857 00:32:50,149 --> 00:32:48,480 do the release 858 00:32:52,230 --> 00:32:50,159 from the robotic arm and then as i 859 00:32:54,230 --> 00:32:52,240 mentioned earlier the dragon does its 860 00:32:56,070 --> 00:32:54,240 departure sequence it's it's three burns 861 00:32:57,590 --> 00:32:56,080 out of the approach ellipsoid we don't 862 00:33:00,310 --> 00:32:57,600 have anything else planned for this 863 00:33:02,630 --> 00:33:00,320 mission i know that the the team will be 864 00:33:03,909 --> 00:33:02,640 gathering a lot of data because a lot of 865 00:33:06,549 --> 00:33:03,919 the 866 00:33:08,149 --> 00:33:06,559 sensors and systems on dragon will be 867 00:33:09,990 --> 00:33:08,159 used again as it was during the 868 00:33:12,149 --> 00:33:10,000 rendezvous sequence but we've actually 869 00:33:14,149 --> 00:33:12,159 already completed all of our key tests 870 00:33:15,830 --> 00:33:14,159 for the flight 871 00:33:17,990 --> 00:33:15,840 thank you holly and john i've got a 872 00:33:19,830 --> 00:33:18,000 couple real quick how is dragon's fuel 873 00:33:22,549 --> 00:33:19,840 levels following its extended approach 874 00:33:27,190 --> 00:33:24,549 so dragon is looking uh very good we're 875 00:33:29,590 --> 00:33:27,200 above our margins for a nominal re-entry 876 00:33:31,509 --> 00:33:29,600 and uh we're tracking closely uh with 877 00:33:33,350 --> 00:33:31,519 holly's group for uh release but we're 878 00:33:35,269 --> 00:33:33,360 still above our minimums and above our 879 00:33:37,750 --> 00:33:35,279 profile 880 00:33:41,190 --> 00:33:37,760 okay uh what is the name of the recovery 881 00:33:45,029 --> 00:33:43,190 i don't have that information we have a 882 00:33:46,470 --> 00:33:45,039 number of vessels that we work with but 883 00:33:47,509 --> 00:33:46,480 we can get that to you later if you'd 884 00:33:48,870 --> 00:33:47,519 like 885 00:33:51,190 --> 00:33:48,880 okay that'd be great and then one last 886 00:33:53,430 --> 00:33:51,200 one thank you uh will spacex ever 887 00:33:56,389 --> 00:33:53,440 consider naming future dragons with a 888 00:34:01,190 --> 00:33:58,710 that question you'd have to ask elon so 889 00:34:03,750 --> 00:34:01,200 i can check with him but um 890 00:34:06,070 --> 00:34:03,760 right now this dragon is a c2 plus 891 00:34:09,990 --> 00:34:06,080 vehicle and the next vehicle to fly 892 00:34:12,790 --> 00:34:10,000 dragon 3 is uh is is going to be 893 00:34:14,710 --> 00:34:12,800 fulfilling the crs one role 894 00:34:16,550 --> 00:34:14,720 okay thanks john congratulations on a 895 00:34:19,349 --> 00:34:16,560 great flight 896 00:34:21,190 --> 00:34:19,359 thank you i really appreciate it 897 00:34:29,109 --> 00:34:21,200 okay i think that is all any follow-ups 898 00:34:33,510 --> 00:34:31,349 thanks again mark caro for aviation week 899 00:34:36,149 --> 00:34:33,520 i i wondered about the 900 00:34:37,669 --> 00:34:36,159 the early cargo that will be taken from 901 00:34:39,829 --> 00:34:37,679 dragon 902 00:34:41,589 --> 00:34:39,839 and and presented to nasa i guess in the 903 00:34:43,510 --> 00:34:41,599 los angeles area 904 00:34:46,470 --> 00:34:43,520 is any of that some of the medical 905 00:34:48,149 --> 00:34:46,480 specimens that have been accumulating 906 00:34:50,310 --> 00:34:48,159 on the space station or is there some 907 00:34:52,069 --> 00:34:50,320 way you can sort of describe the nature 908 00:34:54,389 --> 00:34:52,079 of what's 909 00:34:56,790 --> 00:34:54,399 early material to get or is it simply 910 00:34:59,990 --> 00:34:56,800 just demo stuff that 911 00:35:02,390 --> 00:35:01,270 okay well 912 00:35:04,069 --> 00:35:02,400 probably would be better to get you the 913 00:35:07,349 --> 00:35:04,079 specifics off of the manifest from what 914 00:35:09,349 --> 00:35:07,359 i can remember looking at it yesterday 915 00:35:11,670 --> 00:35:09,359 we went into dragon and took some 916 00:35:13,589 --> 00:35:11,680 samples of the environment grab sample 917 00:35:17,109 --> 00:35:13,599 as an example and so that's one of the 918 00:35:18,390 --> 00:35:17,119 early dsto items so that 919 00:35:20,150 --> 00:35:18,400 the team on the ground can start 920 00:35:22,230 --> 00:35:20,160 analyzing that immediately and make sure 921 00:35:25,109 --> 00:35:22,240 everything was as we expected and in 922 00:35:26,470 --> 00:35:25,119 terms of of medical samples i think it'd 923 00:35:29,670 --> 00:35:26,480 be better if we check the manifest and 924 00:35:31,589 --> 00:35:29,680 then we'll get you that information 925 00:35:33,589 --> 00:35:31,599 okay i think that's it let's take a look 926 00:35:36,150 --> 00:35:33,599 at our programming coming up uh early 927 00:35:38,150 --> 00:35:36,160 tomorrow morning here on nasa television 928 00:35:40,150 --> 00:35:38,160 uh we'll have the iss update later on 929 00:35:41,829 --> 00:35:40,160 today at 10 o'clock central time 11 930 00:35:43,190 --> 00:35:41,839 o'clock eastern time 931 00:35:44,550 --> 00:35:43,200 and as you heard holly talk about the 932 00:35:46,390 --> 00:35:44,560 crew is going to wake up 933 00:35:49,190 --> 00:35:46,400 bright and early later on tonight at 11 934 00:35:52,390 --> 00:35:49,200 p.m central time uh midnight eastern 935 00:35:54,630 --> 00:35:52,400 time our coverage will begin at 1 30 a.m 936 00:35:56,630 --> 00:35:54,640 central time with the 937 00:35:58,470 --> 00:35:56,640 unbirthing of the dragon spacecraft from 938 00:36:02,069 --> 00:35:58,480 the international space station that 939 00:36:04,390 --> 00:36:02,079 time right now set for 305 a.m central 940 00:36:06,710 --> 00:36:04,400 time for the robotic arm to 941 00:36:08,310 --> 00:36:06,720 detach dragon from the space station and 942 00:36:12,310 --> 00:36:08,320 then the actual release will take place 943 00:36:13,829 --> 00:36:12,320 at 4 35 a.m central time 5 35 a.m 944 00:36:15,829 --> 00:36:13,839 eastern time 945 00:36:18,150 --> 00:36:15,839 we'll have another edition of iss update 946 00:36:20,710 --> 00:36:18,160 early tomorrow morning at 8 00 a.m 947 00:36:22,790 --> 00:36:20,720 central time 9 00 a.m eastern time and 948 00:36:25,910 --> 00:36:22,800 then our live coverage will continue at 949 00:36:27,910 --> 00:36:25,920 9 15 a.m central time for the deorbit 950 00:36:30,630 --> 00:36:27,920 and splashdown coverage right now the 951 00:36:32,310 --> 00:36:30,640 de-orbit burn is scheduled for 9 51 a.m 952 00:36:34,230 --> 00:36:32,320 central time which of course would be uh 953 00:36:37,109 --> 00:36:34,240 10 51 a.m eastern 954 00:36:41,750 --> 00:36:37,119 and then the splashdown targeted for 10 955 00:36:43,349 --> 00:36:41,760 44 a.m central time 11 44 a.m eastern 956 00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:43,359 time and then we'll have our final 957 00:36:47,910 --> 00:36:45,040 mission status briefing from here in 958 00:36:49,349 --> 00:36:47,920 houston and also in hawthorne at 1pm 959 00:36:52,069 --> 00:36:49,359 central time 960 00:36:54,230 --> 00:36:52,079 2 p.m eastern time so please join us 961 00:36:56,230 --> 00:36:54,240 tomorrow for the conclusion of this 962 00:36:57,670 --> 00:36:56,240 historic mission and of course for all 963 00:37:03,030 --> 00:36:57,680 the latest information just log on to 964 00:37:08,310 --> 00:37:06,550 spacex or slash station iss update is up